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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 9th, 2026 04:36 pm)

So dr rdrz will be aware of my recent problems with printer, so I finally bit the bullet and after consulting Which Best Buys and so forth, went for an Epson Eco-Tank from John Lewis.

Which arrived at lunchtime today.

And I had anticipated spending hours if not days whining and stressing and beating my head on the ground and wrestling like until Jacob with the Angel to get the thing talking to my system and actually printing/scanning/copying.

Behold me sat sitting here having achieved getting it connected to the Wifi (the Wizard, though, is crap because it assumes that your password is a word rather than numeric, fortunately there was an alternative route), appearing under printers/scanners in my desktop computer settings, and copying, scanning, and printing.

There was a little hassle with printing which turned out to be due to Advanced Printer Settings turning out to have weird Paper Size as default rather than A4, which given that A4 is supposed to be their standard size, was bizarre.

This is positively uncanny, do admit.

What I read

Finished Never Had It So Good, and while I am less whelmed than I was on first reading it 50 years ago (aaarrgh), and consider that as panoramic social novel of provincial life, does not quite reach the level of South Riding, yet, that is the comparison one thinks of. I also mark up Mr Jones in contrast to The Angry Young Men who were his contemporaries over a whole range of issues.

Finished Considering The Female Man by Joanna Russ, or, As the Bear Swore, which was fascinating, and very readable, but has not somehow inspired me to rush off and do a re-read.

Then thought I should really read Adania Shibli, Minor Detail (2017), for forthcoming in-person book group.

In hopes of a change from that - it's grim - read Marion Keyes, The Mystery of Mercy Close (Walsh Family, #5) (2012), a recent Kobo deal, which was itself not entirely the most cheerful read.

On the go

Amazon helpfully alerted me to Kindle-only publication of Alexis Hall, Never After, currently in progress, also not really bringing the delicious froth - opium-addicted Victorian rent-boy rescued from homelessness on the streets by clergyman (unexpected and unwanted 3rd son in aristo family, put him into the church) with his own backstory baggage.

Up next

There's a new Literary Review.

Also I had a mad binge on Kobo the other day, mostly Dick Francises which had come down to promotional prices, but I also finally succumbed to the most recent Edward St Aubyn which has been tempting me. The previous one was so much less gruesome than the Melrose sequence that perhaps this will be the change of pace I'm looking for?

Personally I suspect Blake Morrison has either not read terribly deeply in memoirs of the past, because I could probably without too much struggle come up with instances which were not at all about being 'a geriatric, self-satisfied genre (politicians, generals and film stars looking back fondly on long careers)', but one sees that this is a position he has to take up in order to make his case about Ye Moderne Confeshunal memoiring.

‘Enough of this me me me’: Blake Morrison on memoir in the age of oversharing

(Harriette Wilson would like a word, just saying, for starters.) (We can so imagine dear Harriette on social media, no?)

I'm not sure he's really got an argument there rather than some vague blathering about published memoirs vs social media and blogs, especially given the, er, thinness of his historical grounding (though in some cases past memoirists prudently arranged for the work to published posthumously).

And as for people being somewhat lax with the truthiness of their memoirs, how about this chap: The schoolteacher who spawned a Highland literary hoax:

The book’s author and narrator, Donald Cameron, describes his early life in Blarosnich, a remote hill farm in the Western Highlands in the 1930s and early 1940s. The book presents a Brigadoon-like spectacle of an agrarian community seemingly little touched by modernity, populated by pious women, elderly aristocrats and lusty farm lads.
....
Donald Cameron was, in fact, a pseudonym of Robert Harbinson Bryans, an itinerant bisexual schoolteacher turned travel writer who was born in Belfast in 1928 and died in London in 2005. Also known as Robin Bryans, his name is now largely forgotten apart from among students of plots and conspiratorial claims.

He is not, I think, the only instance of totally faked autobiography taken as searing insight into a lost way of life.

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 6th, 2026 05:49 pm)

A concatenation of things Relevant To My Research Interests (I guess), or, well, I feel I ought to keep up with this sort of thing....

Exiles of love?: uncovering lesbian voices in interwar Czechoslovakia, by someone I know, or at least, whose partner I know and whom I know by association.

Confining yet Convenient: Using Gender Norms to Defend Oneself in Cases of Rural Spousal Violence in Post-Independence Ireland: because that sort of thing could happen, using the system (see that book on 'economic divorce from deserting husbands' in late C19th England).

Review of Pious and Promiscuous: Life, Love and Family in Presbyterian Ulster, which is again, about how the system allows of certain flexibilities.

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How to piss off historians: Drought, Conflict and the Use of Historical Data and Methodologies in Interdisciplinary Palaeoclimatic Research:

Norman et al. argue that historical sources support their conclusions that drought contributed causally to the ‘barbarian conspiracy’ of 367CE and to other late Roman conflicts. Although historians have developed rigorous methodologies for effective analysis and interpretation of surviving texts, the authors outline no methodologies for dealing with the textual evidence. Further, there are issues with the historical ‘conflict’ and numismatic datasets and with their interpretation.... the textual evidence discussed by Norman et al. does not, and cannot, support the authors’ assertions.

Swing that codfish!

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Is this not lovely news? posthumous work by Vonda McIntyre forthcoming from Aqueduct Press in May

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 6th, 2026 09:39 am)
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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 5th, 2026 07:12 pm)

This week's bread: a loaf of Marriages's Moulsham Strong Malted Seeded Bread Flour, turned out nicely.

Friday night supper: penne with Romano peppers chopped and sizzled in oil oil with chopped chorizo de navarra.

Saturday breakfast rolls: Tassajarra method, 50:50% strong white/wholemeal spelt flour, Rayner's Barley Malt Extract, dried blueberries, turned particularly well.

Today's lunch: lemon sole fillets, which I cooked more or less thus, only with juice of half a lime which worked a lot better for making a paste; served with Ruby Gem potatoes roasted in goosefat (was going to do in beef dripping but it was way past its BBF), Bellaverde sweetstem broccoli garlic-roasted with chopped baby peppers (left over from last week) (other half of the lime squeezed over at the end), and spinach cooked according to Dharamjit Singh's recipe in Indian Cookery.

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 5th, 2026 12:35 pm)
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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 4th, 2026 05:04 pm)

It's like the fact that anyone has studied it just gets erased from the record?

24 scientists contribute a preprint on Neuroanatomy of the clitoris:

The clitoris is one of the least studied organs of the human body. The detailed anatomy of the clitoris is challenging to address through a gross dissection, as most of its parts are embedded internally, surrounded by pubic bone and several pelvic organs.

Helen O'Connell and colleagues, 2005, Anatomy of the Clitoris?

O'Connell does feature in the citations, I see. Along with various other scientists who boldly went where no man....

Because one does rather want to enquire 'Least studied BY WHOM???'

Take it away, Lil Johnson:


I feel that this is sort-of related: Founder of ‘orgasmic meditation’ company gets nine years in prison in forced labor conspiracy" - a bit more on What the Hell is Orgasmic Meditation: What to know about the controversial practice of ‘orgasmic meditation’:

“One rule of thumb when exploring sex-positive spaces might be to ask: ‘Is someone getting rich from this?’” says Dr Anouchka Grose, a writer and psychoanalyst in London. “If the answer is yes, there’s a distinct possibility that money is more important to the organizer than your wellbeing.”

Or any spaces, really.

Because she is bringing us old bats into disrepute (we are more or less in the same age cohort), this is exactly the sort of thing that gets us dismissed, and it's quite clearly weaponised incompetence to get her son to run around buying stuff on the internet for her while she does not do due diligence over her headphones.
You be the judge: should my mum stop asking me to buy her new headphones?:

My son Henry is exaggerating terribly. I don’t lose headphones all the time. I simply put them away in different places and occasionally forget which place that was.
This happens to everyone, especially when you live in a house where things move about over time. I live on my own, in a large, eccentric home. I’m not a hoarder but I often forget where I put things. Henry will come over and find the headphones after I have lost them, and while I’m grateful to him for helping me find them and buying new ones, I could do without some of his lectures.
I’m 76; I don’t need to be told to “be more careful”. I just live my life how I want and sometimes I’m a bit scatty.

It Is Not Rocket Science, lady.

Mind you, also irksome is that thing when somebody prates on of 'in my day' and I think, not merely that I was there in that day and we had electric light and everything, they are, a little calculation suggests, actually somewhat younger and should not be going on like that.

This was something that flitted past me where someone was being driven bananas by her mother-in-law interfering with the baby and upsetting its routine and doing all those things annoying relatives do because they are not going to be kept up all night by agitated babby.... And there was sense that MiL was 'oh, these new-fangled notions' as if in her day it was Ye Wisdomme of Ye Village Cronez rather than paediatricians advising new mothers.

I will, as a historian of medicine, concede that ideas of How To Bring Up Baby have gone through changes, but suspect that 'if babby has got to sleep, let babby sleep in peace' has always been pretty central.

(I realise that there may yet come a time when in a miasmatic wasteland this crone of the tribe maunders on about the time in her day when they had vaccines and codliver oil....)

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 2nd, 2026 05:06 pm)

Yesterday partner and I went on an excursion to Rochester, as partner wanted to visit the cathedral and the castle, and I thought it would make a nice little trip - two trains an hour from St Pancras International. Also, it is not presently in the throes of having either of its twice-yearly Dickens Festivals, although there are quite a lot of manifestations of Charles D associations, from cafes called e.g. Tiny Tim's to plaques on buildings declaring that they are the originals of [some building in one or other of the novels].

The castle is Norman and there is quite a lot of it still standing. Realised that these days I am not so spritely about manouevring around rough-hewn spiral staircases and did not ascend all the way to the top of the tower. Apparently it is where Henry VIII met Anne of Cleves on her arrival in England (dooooomed! doooomed!). There were notices all over about the corpses of pigeons - these are preyed on by crows, the crows are a protected species, tough, pidges.

The cathedral is second oldest in England and has seen a lot of history, not to mention The Reformation, the Civil War and Commonwealth, Victorian church restoration, etc. There are some v kitsch early C19th funerary monuments. The crypt is v modernised and has a caff, a chapel to St Ithamar, first Saxon bishop of Rochester, and an exhibition of medieval manuscripts from the cathedral library (that survived the Henrician Reformation).

The high street is well worth strolling along, quite a number of picturesque ancient edifices, including Eastgate House and the Six Poor Travellers House.

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 2nd, 2026 09:35 am)
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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 1st, 2026 07:37 pm)

What I read

Finished Honeycomb.

Read Jonathan Kellerman, Jigsaw (2026), for a change of pace. While the perp is, for a change, not a serial killer with intricate pattern of murders, still a psycho, though revenge in the mix. I yearn for Dr Delaware to get a locked room mystery at a country house party with a load of ye trad motives.

Then back to Barbara Hambly, Murder in the Trembling Lands (2025), which I still found fairly confusing - admittedly the plot is rooted in confused/confusing stories - on a re-read.

Something or other brought to mind a really obscure author whose 2 novels I'd managed to find (after reading the second from the library and then wanting to read it again and searching for it for years), so actually managed to retrieve these from the approximate places where they were supposed to be on actual shelves.

D. A. Nicholas Jones, Parade in Pairs (1958), first novel, some good things, thought the racial violence at the end was a bit gratuitous - chronology suggests it could not have been response to Notting Hill Race Riots. Period racial attitudes are situated in characters and there is quite a bit of ambiguity going on. Also some, fairly peripheral, characters are gay.

On the go

D. A. Nicholas Jones, Never Had It So Good (1963), which is the one I first encountered. I see I wrote about it years ago back in LJ days.

Also on the go, as I was out and about today and did not want to tote about a substantial hardback, Farah Mendlesohn, Considering The Female Man by Joanna Russ, or, As the Bear Swore, published yesterday.

Up next

No idea.

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([personal profile] oursin Apr. 1st, 2026 09:33 am)
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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 31st, 2026 07:16 pm)

I know I was born into a fortunate generation which had things like university grants and better employment opportunities and the ability to buy one's own house in one's twenties and so on -

I have also occasionally been heard to remark that, on account of the codliver oil and school milk dispensed by a caring Welfare State, Ma Generayshun probably has bones like steel girders persisting into the twilight years and that this very likely no longer pertains -

- I did not realise that life expectancy was actually going down (older article, feel I saw something much more recently but didn't keep the link).

Not to mention decline in actual expectation of healthy quality of life.

I was brought up with coal fires - the Clean Air Act was 1956 but I'm not sure how long the effects took to kick in - possibly various dietary things that might not be considered optimum these days? - various things like the foot-x-ray machines in shoe-shops that have vanished -

While maybe not the plethora of junk food there is now it was absolutely not that organic idyll that gets posited!

So there were adverse factors around, but maybe just enough counter-balancing things going on?

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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 31st, 2026 09:39 am)
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([personal profile] brigid Mar. 30th, 2026 08:04 pm)
It's spring so I've done the yearly deforestation of my legs and today I wore a dress with no tights or leggings, just bare skin.

I felt cute but also it was horrible.

I was constantly afraid the front was going to creep up (I have a very large stomach). My office chair has a mesh seat which I could feel through the skirt, and against the backs of my knees. It was breezy enough out that I had to hold the skirt down so it didn't fly up.

Every spring I resolve to experiment with femininity a bit more, and I lurch headlong toward skirts and dresses and realize anew how inconvenient they are.

I have a knee length navy A-Line skirt that I'm going to wear on Thursday, though, with sheer diamond-patterned navy tights. Assuming it doesn't rain. It's raining on Tuesday, which is also my busy day when I'm literally and figuratively running around, meaning I'm going to wear trousers and sturdy shoes.

I'm remote on Wednesdays so it's a pajama day. Luxury!

It was in the lower 80s today which I want to say is very warm for March but it's really not. We've been having temperature extremes for so long now, even though my benchmark remains my childhood. There's thunderstorms overnight and tomorrow and the temperature's going to drop to the 40s by Wednesday, then back up to the 60s on Thursday. I hate these wild temperature swings! Today was a little glimpse of summer, although not quite as humid, and I was cute.
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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 30th, 2026 07:33 pm)

Well, I suppose getting a text from the GPs apropos slots opening up for Covid booster was not entirely unanticipated - I was looking the other day to see whether these were on the horizon - so anyway, my dearios, I am scheduled for mine in just over a fortnight.

But the other thing was getting an email from radio people as to whether I could talk to them about History of Criminalisation/Decriminalisation of Abortion THIS VERY AFTERNOON -

- which it so happened I could, and these days, it is not just talking to them, it is being on Zoom as well with instructions re camera -

So I am always up for saying that the way the police have been carrying on of very recent years, and the health professionals who have been grassing women up to them, is worse than the Victorians as historians have pretty much failed to find anything much in the way of prosecutions of women rather than abortionists -

- possibly because in most cases that even came to light it was because the woman had died, though there are a few cited In The Literature where she lived and testified in the court case, and presumably was granted immunity.

I suppose it is not totally improbable that a very detailed search of the British Newspaper Archives using the various likely search terms under which one would anyway search for cases of abortion (not the word mostly used) would turn up a case or two of women prosecuted for procuring their own, but I really think it's more likely to turn up a lot of fascinating detail about who was doing illicit abortions, and whether local juries thought they were performing a public service and had just had bad luck in this one case (came across at least one in a fairly random swoop myself).

Unfortunately time constraints and what they actually wanted me to talk about (like why the 1861 Act still pertains, cue me ranting about having to defend the 1967 Act, which just introduced Exceptions to the existing Act, for decades because of the RtL mobs rather than press forward with further reform) prevented me from doing the full [personal profile] oursin Boring For Europe on the subject.

Mr 'warm leads for archivists' is still badgering me.

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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 30th, 2026 09:32 am)
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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 29th, 2026 07:37 pm)

Last week's bread held out pretty well, though got rather dry.

Enough left - though perhaps a bit too much on the dry side - to include in frittata for Friday night supper along with a yellow bell pepper and eggs also getting used up.

Saturday breakfast rolls: adaptable soft rolls recipe, Marriage's Light Spelt flour, maple syrup, ground ginger: turned out a little on the dense side.

Today's lunch: the Mediterranean roasted vegetable thing: garlic cloves, red onion, fennel, baby courgettes, green bell pepper, red, yellow and orange baby peppers, aubergine; served with couscous - this time I tried M&S, and while the packet instructions are a bit misleading, turned out a lot better than Waitrose.

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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 29th, 2026 12:54 pm)
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([personal profile] brigid Mar. 28th, 2026 09:20 pm)
If you're interested in neocities, or making websites generally, I have a neocities website that has some information on how to create websites and general fun stuff to do online.

Dink! Donk? Dunk. is a fun little project that isn't fully finished - the red square is meant to be replaced by an icon of some sort - but is stable enough for now.

I should probably put a "new" or "updated" page for when I add things, which I do from time to time.
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([personal profile] brigid Mar. 28th, 2026 01:19 pm)
I'm making pasta e fagioli soup today.

I came home yesterday with groceries and immediately put the beans to soak so i didn't forget.

I woke up this morning, brushed my teeth, and immediately started dicing carrots and celery etc. Gotta get this shit together. MY CHILD NEEDS SOUP.

Specifically, my autistic child with ARFID and a very limited pool of acceptable foods loves the veggie-filled minestrone soup I make (as long as it doesn't have cheese in it) (or garbanzo beans).

Said child is currently having A Very Nice Lunch with their dad after an unpleasant medical appointment and I'm going to get up in a bit and cook some italian sausage and assemble two half pans of lasagna. It's my batch cooking weekend. My kid's going to college the year after next and that shit isn't cheap and we need to eat out less. How "isn't cheap" is it? Community college now costs the same per semester as the state college I attended in the late 1990s. What the fuck.

My kid has a career plan that involves "working in an office for the state and creating art is a hobby/side hustle" so an associates degree with work study in an administrative office is the plan, followed perhaps by transferring to a state school to finish the degree with office work through a temp agency. My child has a career plan at the age of 17. I'm 47 and don't have a career plan other than "keep doing what I'm doing I guess?????".

Anyway, after washing onion off my hands I applied a dab of Iron Snow to the inside of my wrist. Scent notes are "Simple syrup, cardamom pods, pamplemousse, amber, fresh snow, orris, fennel, and effervescence."

This goes on smelling very thin, almost watery. Not like petrichor, but like... if you have dough then you can't see through it, it's opaque, but if you roll it thin enough you can see light through it. Sometimes smells are the same. They're thin, they're watery, they're transient.

It blooms on the skin, though it remains subtle. The initial smell was almost solely weak mandarin orange, which I guess is the pamplemousse. After a few minutes the smell is deeper. I don't get much cardamom, there's no fennel that I notice, and I'm not sure what orris is meant to smell like. I'm picking up the sweetness of simple syrup and I don't know what "fresh snow" is supposed to smell like but by god this DOES have the edge of winter air right before it snows.

With a name like "iron snow" I was expecting something a little darker or deeper.

I'm not a huge fan of this. It just isn't for me. I can see it being exactly what someone else loves, though.

List of all reviews here.

Things happen over a long term.

Things that look at the time like a failure or even a disaster may be sowing seeds or releasing spores and having an impact that will go on.

Or even have a counter-intuitive impact at the time: okay, The Well of Loneliness got convicted for obscenity in 1928 but 1000s of women realised they were not alone just from reading the reports in the newspapers, and 1000s of them wrote to Radclyffe Hall.

Just because something does not endure does not endure does not mean it had no influence.

Am currently reading book by a friend which makes quite a thing of long-term impact of small obscure organisations of early C20th I worked on.

Was a piece in Guardian Saturday today which doesn't appear to be yet online which was doing the ever-recurrent WO about 'I see no feminists' and I wonder what they expect them to look like and perhaps they are supposing something flashy and dramatic, which can be appropriate at times. But the work is not necessarily drawing attention to itself.

Further thought: I was a bit irked to see this: Lifeline is both a musical following Alexander Fleming’s discovery of the first antibiotic and a warning about the threat of superbugs in the present day, because the Fleming narrative erases the immense amount of work that Florey, Chain and Heatley had to put in to make pencillin actually viable.

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([personal profile] oursin Mar. 27th, 2026 07:31 pm)

Gosh those people with the archivists' sales team are persistent! I've heard again - okay, different name and email, exact same wordage - TWICE, second time with added 'Worth a chat?'

No, sir, not in the least.

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This week I got the Authors Licensing and Copyright Society payout, which was an agreeable sum, maybe it would not actually support me in My Old Age, but it is Better Than A Bat In The Eye With A Burnt Stick. Furthermore, as it is itemised - all the tiddly sums that get totted up - it is a Revelation of what works of mine are still being looked at, wow.

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Church attendance report pulled after YouGov finds 'fraudulent' responses:

A report claiming the number of young people attending church in England and Wales had skyrocketed has been retracted, after the underlying data was found to be flawed.
The Bible Society's "Quiet Revival" report had been widely reported on since its publication last year and became an accepted part of discourse among many Christians.
Now YouGov, which carried out the research, has told the Bible Society that an internal review of the data found that some of the respondents who completed its survey were "fraudulent".
It has said that quality control measures, which usually remove such responses, were not applied due to human error.
....
But academics questioned the findings, pointing out that the results seemed out of step with other data. Results from the long-running British Social Attitudes Survey, and even the Church of England's own figures, show a long term decline in church attendance.
Experts said that YouGov's methodology - gathering data from volunteers who received cash rewards for their time - left it vulnerable to "bogus respondents" skewing the data.

Murmurs about Mammon distorting the data....

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Pepys ‘curated’ letters to conceal being offered enslaved boy as bribe – research:

Howe wrote to Pepys to “crave your acceptance” of a “small” enslaved boy, which “I brought home on board for your honour … Hoping he is so well seasoned to endure the cold weather as to live in England.”
Pepys wrote back indignantly rejecting the offer. But Edwards argues this was not because of ethical concerns about slavery, but the optics of looking like a man who could be bribed.

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This is quite resonant with discussion I was having this week apropos of my 1930s feminists and the less visible ways in which the work was happening, so much so that it's been supposed (it was being claimed at the time) that Feminism Woz Ded: The Way of Water: On the Quiet Power of Ursula K. Le Guin’s Activism.

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([personal profile] brigid Mar. 26th, 2026 10:11 pm)
"Bitter Orange" is from a monthly subscription bag and I can't find it on the site. It came with Wake the Dead. Both share bitter/burnt/caramel notes.

The description of Bitter Orange is "So much orange, burnt sugar, salted caramel, and chocolate."

I was looking forward to this but I don't really detect caramel or chocolate and the orange is very bitter and astringent, not orange-juice-y. I really like a few of their chocolate scents, especially Here's the thing: fuck everyone.

To be fair, I have a difficult relationship with orange juice and oranges since starting lithium (which I stopped taking because although it's a miracle solution for many people I had all the weird bad side effects that weren't potentially deadly, including it affecting my taste). Oranges/orange juice have tasted utterly foul since then, a taste I can't even describe except "bad" or "danger." It doesn't taste rotten or spoiled; it doesn't taste like garbage; it doesn't taste acrid or chemical-y. It just tastes like "do not drink."

For quite a long time that's how water tasted but it rarely does now, thank goodness. I was so, so thirsty.

So I don't really detect orange in this, which is a shame as I love the smell of oranges, and I don't pick up on chocolate even though I do in other perfumes they make.

I don't like this one. I don't think it's a "doesn't play well with my skin" thing either because even in the bottle it smells simplistic - like burnt sugar, but not sugar that's burnt in a nice way.when I make caramel sauce I make it darker than most people do, just this edge of burnt, a hint of bitter that livens it up. I was really anticipating liking this scent.

Alas.

It does have an interesting smoke-but-not-smoke essence to it a few hours after I put it on but it's not interesting enough to keep wearing and, again, the bitterness overshadows it.

I can really see this appealing to a certain type of person who's into bitter burnt sugar stuff but it's not for me.

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